Trains from Blackheath to London next week – thank you helpful commuter

Next week commuters using Southeastern rail services from Blackheath station to London will find that none going to London Bridge, Waterloo East or Charing Cross. Trains are going to Cannon Street and Victoria.

Helpful hashtag is #southeastern, be nice to them on Twitter too @Se_Railway.

  • The 521 bus goes from Cannon Street (stop MB) to London Bridge – there are also lots of other nearby buses heading in that direction and it’s a 10-15min walk too.
  • Cannon Street or Victoria tube will take you to Embankment for Charing Cross [Tube map]
  • London Bridge is on the Jubilee Line from Canary Wharf (DLR) or Canada Water (Overground).

Don’t forget that the (always busy, mind) 53 bus goes to Elephant & Castle and Lower Marsh (Waterloo-ish) from Blackheath Standard, more links to transport alternatives below.

Live train departure information for local stations, from… Blackheath / Charlton / Kidbrooke / Lee / Lewisham / Maze Hill / Westcombe Park / Woolwich Arsenal / Woolwich Dockyard

1. Temporary new train times from Blackheath in August
I spotted this in Blackheath station yesterday, by the exit on Platform 1. This person is a kindred spirit, thank you whoever you are 🙂 See tweets below for more on the history behind this.

Train times from Blackheath next Tuesday to Friday (29 August to 1 September). I strongly recommend the CityMapper website (plus excellent and free app) – it’s really good for public transport.

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The text of the poster says ….

For those of you who missed
the South Eastern photo of the
handwritten time table (!!),
here it is typed up for ALL
to see clearly…

BELOW IS A SUMMARY OF MORNING SERVICES FROM
BLACKHEATH TO LONDON TUESDAY TO FRIDAY NEXT WEEK

THERE WILL BE NO TRAINS TO LONDON BRIDGE,
WATERLOO EAST OR CHARING CROSS.

BANK HOLIDAY MONDAY SERVICES WILL BE DIFFERENT.

05.45 CANNON ST
06.15 CANNON ST
06.24 CANNON ST
06.45 CANNON ST
06.54 CANNON ST
07.04 VICTORIA
07.15 CANNON ST
07.24 CANNON ST
07.33 VICTORIA
07.45 CANNON ST
07.54 CANNON ST

08.02 VICTORIA
08.15 CANNON ST
08.24 CANNON ST
08.33 VICTORIA
08.45 CANNON ST
08.54 CANNON ST
09.03 VICTORIA
09.15 CANNON ST
09.24 CANNON ST
09.34 VICTORIA

Brought to you by a commuter who could be bothered spending
10 mins typing this up


 

2 Alternative travel arrangements

RAIL
Live train departure information for local stations, from… Blackheath / Charlton / Kidbrooke / Lee / Lewisham / Maze Hill / Westcombe Park / Woolwich Arsenal / Woolwich Dockyard

FERRIES
Thames Clippers ferries from Greenwich Pier or North Greenwich Pier (go to Canary Wharf, Tower Bridge, London Bridge, Bankside, Blackfriars, Charing Cross (Embankment Pier), Waterloo [‘London Eye’] and Westminster. The 108 or 422 buses will get you to North Greenwich, the 286 or 386 will get you to Greenwich by Cutty Sark for the Greenwich Pier. Greenwich Cutty Sark is also on the DLR line.
• ‘Next boat’ information from Greenwich Pier / North Greenwich Pier

BUSES
Buses from Blackheath to Lewisham station take two routes in opposite directions. The 54 and 108 pick up at the bus stop next to Age Exchange / Shepherd’s Foods on the other side of the road from the station. The 380 picks up on the same side of the station – turn left out of the station, go past the barriered car park (there’s a Farmers’ Market there on Sundays) and past a 24 hour shop, Oddbins and a fruit / veg shop then up the hill past the shoe shop and the one selling electrical equipment. Keep going to The Crown pub from where the 380 will take you to Lewisham station.

DLR
From Lewisham station – walk there or bus. The route is prettier over the heath by Wat Tyler Road (the 380 bus route). DLR goes to Bank via Canary Wharf (also on the ferry route).

OVERGROUND
From New Cross (53 bus) or Denmark Hill (Blackheath train to Victoria stops here).

 

 

 

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Lewisham’s Bus Stop A is out of action until November

Note that the 380 bus will be on diversion from 7 September until after the OnBlackheath event has finished – it won’t go through Hare and Billet road.

A tantalus is a wooden cabinet that displays your alcoholic beverages but is locked in such a cunning way that without the key your servants and children can’t quaff any, according to the Wikipedia article. Something similar is going on at Bus Stop A in Lewisham which is now veiled behind a ‘site entrance’ (see pic below) and is inaccessible. This is thanks to the interminable crossrail roadworks resulting in inconsistent travel routes, from week to week, and reminds me of the stairs at Hogwarts which move around when they feel like it.

Even with a wire cutter Bus Stop A will not bring me any buses.

There is no visible information here to tell me where I can get the bus I want. The closest bus stops offer me buses that are going in the wrong direction, and there’s no information there either. I was a bit miffed.

  1. I know Lewisham well and know where the Blackheath-bound 380 buses stop. Clocktower (bus stop P), then Bus Stop A (when it’s in use) then up Lewisham Hill which is hail-and-ride.
  2. I’m fit enough to walk to either of those two stops
  3. I feel pretty safe in Lewisham though I feel a lot safer at a bus stop surrounded by taxis and rail passengers than I do exposed in the middle of the shopping centre surrounded by closed shops and random strangers. There’s hardly anyone on Lewisham Hill at night so I’d pick that one before the ‘city centre’.

I’m not sure what you’d do if you don’t know the area very well or aren’t very mobile – get a taxi I suppose if you can afford it. It’s pretty poor of TfL not to have a map or some info – at the bus stop I mean, who cares if there’s information on a website – on the options available.

Paul (@bitoclass) is my go-to-guy on Lewisham’s changing transport infrastructure and he tells me that Bus Stop A is now out of action until November.

My solution was to speak with the driver of the 380 bus that terminated at Lewisham station (just a few feet back along the route I’d taken from Platform 1 at the railway station). He very kindly let me get on and take the bus around to the standing point (behind the shopping centre) – we had a very nice chat about our favourite bus routes and the changes in Lewisham and how confusing it all seemed – before he began his new journey which included dropping me off in Blackheath.

 

Countdown – bus stops in Blackheath, what bus is coming next?

Every bus stop in London has its own 5 digit code which, when stuck at the end of these addresses (replacing the XXXXX), will tell you what bus is coming next

Here are the 5 digit codes for the bus stops in Blackheath.

Index
Arranged by Area
• Blackheath Village
• Blackheath Royal Standard (not yet done)
Arranged numerically

Arranged by area

Blackheath Village

Blackheath Hospital (just before turning into or out of the village, on Lee Terrace)
A: 73011 (towards Lewisham) – 54, 89/N89, 108 [mobile] [web]
B: 54957 (towards North Greenwich, Shooters Hill or Woolwich) – 54, 89/N89, 108 [mobile] [web]

Blackheath station (same side, Railway Pub)
C: 71099 (towards Charlton or North Greenwich) – 54, 108, 202 [mobile] [web]
D: 73966 (towards Shooters Hill) – 89/N89 [mobile] [web]

Blackheath station (opposite side, Age Exchange)
E: 57823 (towards Lee Green or Lewisham) – 54, 89/N89, 108, 202 [mobile] [web]

Tranquil Vale (The Crown pub)
F: 71750 (towards Lewisham) – 380 [mobile] [web]

Royal Parade (heathside, opposite Taste of Raj and Rockit)
(arrival-only for 386 bus – 48093 [web])
G: 50082 (towards Charlton, North Greenwich or Shooters Hill) – 54, 89/N89, 108, 202, 380, 386 [mobile] [web]

Prince Charles Road (Clarendon Hotel)
H: 71474 (towards Charlton or Greenwich) – 54,  202,  380,  386 [mobile] [web]
J: 59288 (towards Lee Green or Lewisham) – 54,  202,  380,  386 [mobile] [web]

Prince Charles Road (Maze Hill, Andrew Gibb Memorial)
P: 47151 (towards Charlton) – 54, 202, 380 [mobile] [web]
Q: 76438 (towards Deptford, Lee Green or Lewisham) – 53, 54, 202, 380 [mobile] [web]

Charlton Way (Vanbrugh Park / Beaconsfield Way)
BX: 76535 (towards Deptford, Lee Green or Lewisham) –  53, 54, 202, 380 [mobile] [web]
BU: 48799 (towards Charlton) – 53, 54, 202, 380 [mobile] [web]

Montpelier Row (Clarendon Hotel)
K: 54570 (towards North Greenwich or Welling) –  89/N89, 108 [mobile] [web]

Montpelier Row (next to duck pond, near Princess of Wales pub)
L: 58007 (towards Lewisham) – 89/N89, 108 [mobile] [web]

Prince of Wales Road (St German’s Place)
M: 54136 (towards North Greenwich or Welling) – 89/N89, 108 [mobile] [web]
F: 77673 (towards Lewisham) – 89/N89, 108 [mobile] [web]

Prince of Wales Road (Stratheden Road / Shooters Hill Road)
N: 49487 (towards Greenwich or North Greenwich) – 108, 286 [mobile] [web]
W: 72061 (towards Eltham or Lewisham) – 108, 286 [mobile] [web]

Blackheath Royal Standard

Not done this bit yet…

Prince of Wales Road (Stratheden Parade)
BJ (towards ) –  : [mobile] [web]

Arranged numerically

Prince Charles Road (Maze Hill, Andrew Gibb Memorial)
P: 47151 (towards Charlton) – 54, 202, 380 [mobile] [web]

Royal Parade (heathside, opposite Taste of Raj and Rockit)
(arrival-only for 386 bus – 48093 [web])

Charlton Way (Vanbrugh Park / Beaconsfield Way)
BU: 48799 (towards Charlton) – 53, 54, 202, 380 [mobile] [web]

Prince of Wales Road (Stratheden Road / Shooters Hill Road)
N: 49487 (towards Greenwich or North Greenwich) – 108, 286 [mobile] [web]

Royal Parade (heathside, opposite Taste of Raj and Rockit)
G: 50082 (towards Charlton, North Greenwich or Shooters Hill) – 54, 89/N89, 108, 202, 380, 386 [mobile] [web]

Prince of Wales Road (St German’s Place)
M: 54136 (towards North Greenwich or Welling) – 89/N89, 108 [mobile] [web]

Montpelier Row (Clarendon Hotel)
K: 54570 (towards North Greenwich or Welling) –  89/N89, 108 [mobile] [web]

Blackheath Hospital (just before turning into or out of the village, on Lee Terrace)
B: 54957 (towards North Greenwich, Shooters Hill or Woolwich) – 54, 89/N89, 108 [mobile] [web]

Blackheath station (opposite side, Age Exchange)
E: 57823 (towards Lee Green or Lewisham) – 54, 89/N89, 108, 202 [mobile] [web]

Montpelier Row (next to duck pond, near Princess of Wales pub)
L: 58007 (towards Lewisham) – 89/N89, 108 [mobile] [web]

Prince Charles Road (Clarendon Hotel)
J: 59288 (towards Lee Green or Lewisham) – 54,  202,  380,  386 [mobile] [web]

Blackheath station (same side, Railway Pub)
C: 71099 (towards Charlton or North Greenwich) – 54, 108, 202 [mobile] [web]

Prince Charles Road (Clarendon Hotel)
H: 71474 (towards Charlton or Greenwich) – 54,  202,  380,  386 [mobile] [web]

Tranquil Vale (The Crown pub)
F: 71750 (towards Lewisham) – 380 [mobile] [web]

Prince of Wales Road (Stratheden Road / Shooters Hill Road)
W: 72061 (towards Eltham or Lewisham) – 108, 286 [mobile] [web]

Blackheath Hospital (just before turning into or out of the village, on Lee Terrace)
A: 73011 (towards Lewisham) – 54, 89/N89, 108 [mobile] [web]

Blackheath station (same side, Railway Pub)
D: 73966 (towards Shooters Hill) – 89/N89 [mobile] [web]

Prince Charles Road (Maze Hill, Andrew Gibb Memorial)
Q: 76438 (towards Deptford, Lee Green or Lewisham) – 53, 54, 202, 380 [mobile] [web]

Charlton Way (Vanbrugh Park / Beaconsfield Way)
BX: 76535 (towards Deptford, Lee Green or Lewisham) –  53, 54, 202, 380 [mobile] [web]

Prince of Wales Road (St German’s Place)
F: 77673 (towards Lewisham) – 89/N89, 108 [mobile] [web]